- Nov
- 14
- 2008
- 12:28 PM
Starting Monday, 17 Nov., No More NYSE 'Sub-Penny Halts'
- By: Ray Pellecchia
- File Under: NYSE, NYSE Arca
Another bit of good news that came out yesterday is that effective Monday, Nov. 17, NYSE will no longer need to halt stocks whose price falls below a buck and route any orders in those stocks to our sister NYSE Arca platform.
We've changed our system to be able to recognize sub-penny prices at which other markets might quote those stocks, so we can route to those markets if appropriate, as required by Reg. NMS if another market posts a better price.
Just to be clear: these halts were for operational reasons, as distinct from a regulatory halt that is implemented when a company's stock no longer meets our listing standards. All of these continued throughout to be listed on NYSE; they were just traded on our NYSE Arca platform because of this operational reason.
The details of the change are in this NYSE Trader notice, along with a link to the list of affected stocks and the rule filing about this change.
Hey, I forgot the historical trivia in my post earlier today! Our switchboard has been flooded with complaints, people have been threatening to cancel their subscriptions, and...wait...what's that? We don't have a switchboard?
Ahem. Anyway. To put the world right again:
On This Day (NYTimes.com) in 1972, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed above 1,000 for the first time.
The Times' article about the event, which is worth reading as a historical artifact, recounts:
At 3:29 P.M., red light bars flashed on above and below each of the time clocks surrounding the trading floor of the New York Stock Exchange. This was the traditional visual signal to show that one minute of training time remained. At the same moment, a bell began clanging on the speaker's rostrum - the auditory warning.
Traders, brokers and clerks on the floor - aware that history was in the making - broke into cheers that lasted about 20 seconds. Some paper was tossed in the air and drifted down like confetti.
Several hundred persons on the floor then turned to face newsreel cameras grinding away on the member's gallery, some brokers waving like fans at a football game.
Big Board volume also gave the exchange community something to cheer about. It rose to 20.20 million shares, picking up the tempo as prices climbed.
An office broker, watching the stock tape from his desk downtown, murmured in wonderment: "There's a sort of renewed confidence in the whole economic outlook."
That confident outlook would soon be stomped by the bear market of 1973-74.


Comments
The last 2-3 trading sessions NYSE Euronext has traded 2.7x the volume of the nasdaq. Before this, NYSE was trading 2.3 - 2.5 the volume. Any major reasons OR developments as to why NYSE seems to be trading more volume over the last few sessions than previous compared to Nasdaq?
by Mark T. on November 17, 2008 5:29 PM
I still cant believe that nothing has been done about the amount of fake bids and offers, on both ecns and dot that are allowed to manipulate this market. I am not exagerating when i tell you that 9 out of 10 bids or offers over 10k shares, cancel or move as soon as they might become the inside market or get filled
by josh on November 19, 2008 10:58 AM
I see the same thing josh but i honestly believe that these issues as well as the others we have talked about for the last few years will eventually be addressed. Look at the NYX stock price ( 19.70 ) thats just unacceptable and they will be forced to make positive changes in the VERY near future or its game over. Thats the bottom line. I actually believe that the NYX will get better and i have been a harsh critic in the past for good reason. Thanks.
by tony dey on November 19, 2008 7:43 PM
tony, seriously, what has changed? Since hybrid started what has changed...? the LRPs Sweet! Come on now bud. Its an algo world now and as traders WE ARE THE ONES that have to change...or go sell insurance...lol
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by jt on November 20, 2008 11:36 AM
Trust me JT, i hear about it everyday from my traders. Bottom line, it HAS to get better or its over for them. I will have to bet that they wont let that happen. If not, then i will be across the street from the old NYSE working my Hotdog stand. Stop by and say hello.
by tony dey on November 20, 2008 4:52 PM
In 1973-74 a man could have a drink at his desk, even at the most conservative shops. Stress was relieved in a proper fashion, via Scotch and liaisons with female subordinates.
Too many of today's "traders" are Yuppie geeks who prefer a yoga mat to a highball.
We are in for some hard times because we have too many soft people.
by Tony on November 21, 2008 12:53 AM
Tony Dey, JT, Josh, Mark T. -- We're still in our rollout period, but we're seeing increased participation from the NYSE Trading Floor. While we're still in early days, I think the impact is going to be positive. Please see my post today on an Institutional Investor article on the subject.
Tony@November 21, 2008 12:53 AM -- "...liaisons with female subordinates"? That's everything that was wrong with Wall Street, not what we're missing today. And I don't know why Scotch would produce better traders than yoga, but I'll let traders field that one.
by Ray Pellecchia on November 21, 2008 9:41 AM
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